---poll----main wasteland gun(semi-auto) « Thread Started on Oct 10, 2010, 1:34am »
so out of these semi-auto guns ,which one would you take out into the wasteland? and theres no sniper rifles or low cal. pistols on the list for a reason but i did miss alot of good options ,maybe ill make another poll, if i get enough recomendations that arnt on the list
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Re: ---poll----main wasteland gun(semi-auto) « Reply #4 on Dec 1, 2010, 9:04am »
Out of those one the list, I'll take the DSA SA58 version of the FAL. I spent about half my time in the Australian Army with the L1A1 SLR (semi-auto version of the FN FAL) so I'm more familiar with that than any of the others on the list (although I've trained on the AK and the M14 so they're both a close second). I'm also partial to a sturdy pump-action shotgun but would prefer a Winchester Ranger over the Rem 870 or the Mossbergs (I have nothing against those shotties but I used to own a 1300 Ranger so I'm kinda biased towards that)
Re: ---poll----main wasteland gun(semi-auto) « Reply #5 on Dec 3, 2010, 12:21am »
I'm gonna stick with my AR15, probably an A3 variant, again. Modification parts are plentiful and I'm used to shooting it. I was extremely bummed to find out the buffer modification does not work (kind of... it DOES turn the AR15 into a fully auto weapon, but the weapon continues to fire even after you let go of the trigger meaning you just emptied your magazine).
However, I saw an INSANE magazine option for the weapon that holds 100 rounds in a double drum in case you want to get insane with the lead output.
The double drum would only be useful if you have the gun shoot full-auto. Otherwise it would be better to go semi with a 30 round mag.
Why?
With a magazine you will need to reload in any protracted fight.
With a double drum you can not only fight on while your opponent reloads but you can also lay down suppressive fire if need be. Even if you're arguing that aiming the weapon will be easier with a magazine, the double drum doesn't protrude that much and in a prone or stabilized firing position it's a non-issue.
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Re: ---poll----main wasteland gun(semi-auto) « Reply #8 on Dec 3, 2010, 6:38pm »
Weight, a drum mag filled with ammo will make the gun several pounds heavier. Depending on the round in question. You don't want to have your arms give out in the middle of a fire fight. And if your rifle is already heavy, then you would just be compounding the problem. Besides, even if you have to drum mag you will have to have a way to carry them, if you only have one then this isn't to big of a problem but if you have more then what will you put them in. Regular hi-cap mags would end up being better if you are moving, but the drum mag would be better in a fixed location. Though this is just my 2-cents.
Re: ---poll----main wasteland gun(semi-auto) « Reply #9 on Dec 4, 2010, 4:27pm »
I carried an M249 with 1 100 round belt on the weapon and 2 100 round belts on my gear for 6 months without getting tired. I guess that's why I didn't think of weight, it doesn't apply to me. I can see where less fit people might opt for less rounds and weaker ammo, I guess.
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Re: ---poll----main wasteland gun(semi-auto) « Reply #10 on Dec 4, 2010, 7:41pm »
Well, there aren't a lot of big strong guy's in the US much anymore. Me I thought that the Tommy Gun wasn't that heavy, but my dad thought it was(I just had a problem with the stock length, my arms weren't long enough). But you will also be carrying a lot of other stuff to keep alive, and unless you are used to it your kinda fucked. Also are there any carry pouches for drum mags? They wont just fit in your pocket unless you got giant pockets.
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Re: ---poll----main wasteland gun(semi-auto) « Reply #11 on Dec 5, 2010, 8:58pm »
Neospooky - sounds like you might be thinking of the Beta C-Mag. It's a nice piece of kit, the only complaint I've heard about it was some concern that it placed extra strain on the mag-release catch (but that's true of any high capacity mag holding more than say 60 rounds).
The extra weight is not an issue, after weeks of operations you get very used to the weight of whatever weapon you're carrying like you mentioned and now with the M4 being accessorized more than a Barbie doll, there's plenty of weight on the weapon but the troops can still deal with it.
I think when I was still in the Aussie Army we would carry anything up to 40-50kg of total gear at times and when I started I was carrying the L1A1 which if I remember is about 5kg loaded, from my point of view the extra 1kg or so from a full load in a 5.56mm C-Mag on the M16 or M4 isn't too much to worry about.
Neospooky - sounds like you might be thinking of the Beta C-Mag. It's a nice piece of kit, the only complaint I've heard about it was some concern that it placed extra strain on the mag-release catch (but that's true of any high capacity mag holding more than say 60 rounds).
The extra weight is not an issue, after weeks of operations you get very used to the weight of whatever weapon you're carrying like you mentioned and now with the M4 being accessorized more than a Barbie doll, there's plenty of weight on the weapon but the troops can still deal with it.
I think when I was still in the Aussie Army we would carry anything up to 40-50kg of total gear at times and when I started I was carrying the L1A1 which if I remember is about 5kg loaded, from my point of view the extra 1kg or so from a full load in a 5.56mm C-Mag on the M16 or M4 isn't too much to worry about.
That's the one! And it comes with a pouch to carry an extra... that's my pick right there.
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