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Post-Apocalyptic fiction (non-US setting)
« Thread Started on Apr 5, 2012, 1:26am »

I'm looking for Post-Apocalyptic novels that are set anywhere but the US. I'm interested in how different cultures and societies might react and how the story might be different when, for example, there's less access to guns, or the city infrastructure is a good deal more basic, or the military response isn't as strong etc.

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« Reply #1 on Apr 5, 2012, 4:24am »

My guess is that if you listed PA fiction by geographical setting then you would get a split of 60% USA, 30% UK & 10% Rest of the World.

To mention a few you might want to look at, with an absence of guns - start at the beginning with "After London" by Richard Jefferies also "Riddley Walker" by Russell Hoban. I'm not sure you'll find much difference in the gun count - with most of the UK ones, the survivors will scavenge guns from army bases.

One US series with an absence of guns is S M Stirling's Emberverse books - gunpowder inexplicably stops working (at least I don't think it's ever explained, I couldn't face finishing the series).

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« Reply #2 on Apr 5, 2012, 6:10am »

Yeah, can't argue with your figures.

Thanks for the recs, I'll check them out.

No-guns is something I'm interested in because I think it'd affect the plots quite a bit, but it's not the only thing. Different infrastructures, or even something set in a more rural are instead of an urban one could be interesting as well.

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Re: Post-Apocalyptic fiction (non-US setting)
« Reply #3 on Apr 5, 2012, 8:49am »

Are you wanting books that are set directly at or after the apocalypse? I can think of a lot of books without access to guns but they are set long after the earth is destroyed. As for location I've only found two (that I know of) not set in America or England.

On the Beach by Nevil Shute is set in Australia (born there too). It is a hard science book about the lives of a few characters.

The Last Continent by Edmund Cooper is set in Antarctica but the author was born in England

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Re: Post-Apocalyptic fiction (non-US setting)
« Reply #4 on Apr 5, 2012, 9:12am »

One by Conrad Williams and Empty World by John Christopher both take place in the UK. The latter is about 30 years old or so but holds up well, I think. I never got around to finishing One, just wasn't to my tastes.

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« Reply #5 on Apr 5, 2012, 12:55pm »

Lots of stuff beginning to come out of Russia.

Cannot really point you in the direction of much else although my own little work in progress in the creative fiction section takes in England, France, Italy and Croatia so I like to think that I am perhaps the most well travelled PA author !

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Re: Post-Apocalyptic fiction (non-US setting)
« Reply #6 on Apr 5, 2012, 5:45pm »

Malevil is a post-nuclear war novel that takes place in rural France, written in the 70s. I didn't love it, but it matches what you're looking for.

http://www.amazon.com/Malevil-Robert-Mer....33665908&sr=8-1

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Re: Post-Apocalyptic fiction (non-US setting)
« Reply #7 on Apr 6, 2012, 11:34am »

Apr 5, 2012, 5:45pm, MEGATØN wrote:

That goes on the must read list for me. I also wonder if the French post-apoc movie 'Time of the Wolf' (or something like that) was based on a novel ?

In terms of the Russian post-apoc fiction this is the best known at the moment....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metro_2033_%28novel%29

but I understand that there is a whole new wave currently being translated. Here in London we have a Russian bookshop inside one of our biggest book-stores so am looking forward to reading them soon.

I would have thought that there must be other European post-apoc out there but it does seem (and thats just a perception) like a genre that is dominated by the Anglo-Saxon world.

I wonder, and it is pure speculation, if the devestation that Europe experienced during WW2 meant that it had already experienced its own post-apoc senario played out for real (the experience of much of Germany post 1945-50 is a good example) and so therefore the whole 'what if' side of things seemed a bit trite given all the stuff they had been through ?

Yes, we got bombed here in the UK but it was never on a scale comparable to what we dished out and we never had any occupation either.

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Re: Post-Apocalyptic fiction (non-US setting)
« Reply #8 on Apr 6, 2012, 9:35pm »

Re: serbaside, any timeframe is fine, it's really the location/cultural thing I'm looking for.

Also I completely forgot to mention http://www.haikasoru.com/ which is a Japanese SF site focused on English translations of award-winning Japanese works.

Thanks for the recs everyone!

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« Reply #9 on Apr 13, 2012, 12:15pm »

I agree with Matov. It's a shame that the TechnoTma series, set in a post-apocalyptic Russia, won't be available in translation at least until late this autumn. But in the meantime, there's another Russian PA novel that seems to fit the description, which is Call Me Human by Sergei Marysh. It is about a more basic PA response, and, judging by its Amazon reviews, the readers found it more realistic than average PA fiction. The book is here:

http://www.amazon.com/Call-Me-Human-Apocalypse-ebook/dp/B0078GBOB8

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