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« Thread Started on Mar 31, 2011, 4:20pm » | |
Things will be laying around in waste and people will be scavanging and salvaging what they can.
Large groups of people will try and bully others possibly for their supplies.
If your in a small group than its best to keep a low profile. Keep your supplies especially food and medical supplies in a place that is not where your hiding out.
For example a good idea! A group comes across a truck with dead pigs decaying and the stench turns them off, however they see possibly other stuff in the back of the truck and retrieve it. Something edible. So they leave the dead decay behind and take their findings.
What they failed to see before it was stolen from them along with their women was that the dead pigs can be used to hide and turn people away as well as biological war far against a large group that threatens your small group.
So a good idea I've learned from the survival shows is, hide things in an not so obvious place away from your normal hideout. Don't make things so obvious to newcomers whom can become a threat.
Use things that are good detourents.
Be realistic about what kind of battles to choose from and the ones to walk away from.
The best tip is that the more people come together and help each other the greater your outcome could be of surviving.
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« Reply #1 on Apr 1, 2011, 3:30am » | |
I see someone has watched the Colony.
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« Reply #2 on Apr 1, 2011, 11:04am » | |
A group will have a better chance of survival than a loner in such a situation - I mean, you have to sleep, bathe and defecate sometime. Who's watching your back? You can also get a lot more done (like building a nice shelter or digging a well) in a small group.
I also agree that low profile is the way to go. Dressing up in fatigues and carrying a ton of weapons is asking to get sniped. I would be well-armed, don't get me wrong, but I wouldn't be obvious about it. Wear earth tone clothes and think outside the box. Be friendly if possible, but ready to kill any son of a bitch who threatens you. Always have a plan B.
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« Reply #3 on May 11, 2011, 1:11am » | |
well, depending on your skills and the situation it could be much more safe to travel alone, especially in wildness.
in the aftermath there won't ne much "order" and i suspetect people to go quite carzy..
roaming gangs that captures you and sells you as slaves (or worse), folks who kill you just because they can or want your shiny stuff, wierd disesases spreading without medical supplies.... endless list..
yeah, i don't have much thrust in humanity, and i suppose this would happen regulary. maybe it would calm down after some time.. but who knows, mankind is wierd and fucked^^
and those who think of small groups. who will u let join? your friends with whom u prepare now? they may be dead..
sure, a samll group would be the best because things get easier, but i would take great care. just soo much more risk.. think of every possible movie where one guy freaks out and endangers the whole party. it's just bound to happen..
imo an army or special forces squad of 3-6 people would have the best chances.
highly trained, mental very stable, excellent physical condition, and a strong group "bonding" (lacking the right word, sry)
so people, enlist (jk^^)
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« Reply #4 on May 11, 2011, 1:58am » | |
Mental stability only applies to armies other than the US. US soldiers have I think a 30% higher chance of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder as opposed to other western armies (2-4% in the UK). Mostly due to our coddling culture with self help classes and courses everywhere, we're also largely religious, a Christian killing another man is more traumatic than say a more secular man, which is what Europe largely is now. Also since we're such a coddling society people are more prone to fake PTSD for attention. Covered it in my psych class last week or so.
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« Reply #5 on May 11, 2011, 2:35am » | |
well, in the us you also have enough paramilitary fanatics, so the first thing i would do is leave US asap^^
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« Reply #6 on May 11, 2011, 10:23am » | |
When it come's to hiding stuff woods has got to be a pretty good place. I live fairly near some decent sized woods, i'm sure if was to hide things in/under trees people (including myself i guess) would never find it.
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« Reply #7 on May 11, 2011, 12:45pm » | |
Trying Googling "DIY cache" and see what pops up. You can easily make your own cache tubes out of PVC, then bury them for later retrieval. Just make sure you bury them on land you own or have permission to use. Don't put them on public land or anywhere that might end up as part of a new subdivision.
One idea for marking the spot I've seen and like is to use a unique, homemade cement "rock." What this guy did was to find a rock in his yard that was very easy to spot due to the shape. He used it to make a cast, then created duplicates of the rock out of concrete. He uses these duplicates to mark the cache locations.
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« Reply #8 on May 12, 2011, 1:45am » | |
A interesting idea jim, it would work for me. I go off of landmarks to get my way around.
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« Reply #9 on May 31, 2011, 10:26am » | |
I like the idea that even the smallest things that would be considered junk these days could potentially help you out when the chips are down. It's all about what you know though - ways of making shelter and fire and ways of finding food and water. Also if you're into guns it's incredibly easy to make some explosives and pipe guns etc from salvaged goods.
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« Reply #10 on May 31, 2011, 11:00pm » | |
May 31, 2011, 10:26am, Rick wrote:I like the idea that even the smallest things that would be considered junk these days could potentially help you out when the chips are down. It's all about what you know though - ways of making shelter and fire and ways of finding food and water. Also if you're into guns it's incredibly easy to make some explosives and pipe guns etc from salvaged goods and blow your hand off.
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Fixed it for ya.  Medical help might be hard to find in such a situation - why would you take a chance like that? I mean, if I were in a group, fighting off hordes of MZB's some incendiary devices would be worth it, but pipe guns are just asking for it IMO.
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« Reply #11 on Jun 1, 2011, 4:14am » | |
Haven't blown my hand off yet mate, and if necessity calls for such things to be made then at least I know that I can make them. Some people might misunderstand that you just throw a few things together and everything will be alright when making things like I mentioned above. The reality is that you have to take extreme care with them, but they are essentially easy to make.
In the middle east people are throwing together IED's and they're effective enough - and in Burma the Karen (spelling?) tribesmen are making their own home-made .50 cal rifles that they are using to awesome effect. Improvised and home-made weapons, if made properly and patiently and with the correct care are very reliable. It's the silly young kids that make something without the right information that go around and blow their hands off.
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« Reply #12 on Jun 1, 2011, 8:18pm » | |
Making explosives involves exothermic reactions. All you need to be is unlucky once. I agree with you, that improvised weapons can be very useful, but they can still be dangerous. I'm pretty good at fabricating things FWIW - have done that kind of work most of my life, but building an headspacing a .50 caliber rifle chambered for the .50 BMG is not something I would undertake unless I had really good plans, the right tools (including a lathe and headspace gages) and the correct material. I've seen the results of a few kabooms (easy to find on youtube) and it makes no sense to me. Just making red nitric acid scares me, let alone working with glycerine. An experienced chemist would have a different feeling about it I'm sure, but would also agree with me that such things are dangerous.
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« Reply #13 on Jun 2, 2011, 12:25am » | |
Yeah, it's not on my agenda to make one of those rifles, but simply to point out that it can be done. The idea of putting things like these together in the back yard with a few buddies is completely stupid and you really do need the right tools etc - but the original point was that these things can be done with salvaged materials. For instance things like pipe bombs etc are not overly difficult to make but you need to be VERY bloody careful.
I've made a lot of these things and had a bit of, um, "fun" with them I suppose you could say and most of these things were made with stuff that was laying around.
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« Reply #14 on Jun 2, 2011, 11:27pm » | |
Well, I agree with you that things like thermite can be built pretty safely, but it's still playing with fire IMO. I just don't want to see anyone get hurt. If TEOTWAWKI happens, all bets are off. I would do whatever I needed to do, but even handling stable explosives like primacord and C4 can get hairy, let alone making it. That's all I'm trying to say. Anythings' possible, but lots of Vietcong and Iraqis have been blown to hell building improvised stuff. I would not engage in such a thing unless it were all out war. Just my .02
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